Rethink the Hoyer hot takes.
Let’s review Hoyer’s Monday night because I have yet to find a sensible take on the whole performance other than from Mike Pettine who said:
Pettine: “Hard for a QB to look good when the guys around him aren’t playing well…tough to evaluate when overall level of play around..
— Zac Jackson (@FSOhioZJackson) August 19, 2014
…them isn’t what it should be.” — Zac Jackson (@FSOhioZJackson) August 19, 2014
But just how bad were the players around Brian Hoyer? Let’s find out. I copied pasted all of Hoyer’s plays from here. I found a highlight clip that you can see here. I just grabbed some still shots to illustrate my points. (You can click them all to enlarge but they are a bit blurry.) Let’s go.
Play 1: Cameron in motion when he shouldn’t have been, while Hoyer tries to get him squared away Mack quick snaps the ball which apparently caught Schwartz off guard allowing the Skins best defensive player, Ryan Kerrigan, to come in untouched and sack Hoyer.
Play 2: False start, Joe Thomas.
Play 3 (2nd/21): Hoyer nails Jordan Cameron in the ass with the football. Repeat: HOYER HITS HIS RECEIVER IN THE ASS WITH THE FOOTBALL TEN YARDS DOWNFIELD. AND IN STRIDE. All Cameron needed to do was remember to look back at the QB.
Play 4 (3rd/21): Draw play, good gain by Tate but punt on 4th and 2.
Play 5: Handoff.
Play 6: Handoff.
Play 7 (3rd/4): Not a perfect pass to Hawkins but a catchable pass. The pass was low. Short curls are supposed to be thrown low. Less chance for interception; less chance of murdering your receiver. I’d put the blame pie at 50/50 between Hoyer’s imperfect pass and Hawkins not making a play. Hawk needs to sacrifice the YAC, get on the ground, make the catch, take the third down convert. Instead, three and out punt.
Two Manziel drives (1. three-and-out; 2. 11 play, four minute drive, 60 yds — 35 of which were Skins penalties).
THIRD HOYER DRIVE
After Tashon Gibson interception Browns get ball deep in Skins’ territory.
Play 8: Absolutely perfect pass to Gordon on a slant-cross route. Ball was chest height and required no reach — i.e., Hoyer again did not put his receiver in position to get creamed. Gordon short-armed it, missed it. 100% on Gordon.
Play 9: Handoff.
Play 10: Here is the pass that has everyone spun up. Hoyer throws behind wide open Hawkins. But here again, I think he was back shouldering Hawkins due to not wanting to make a mistake. Hoyer is not an inaccurate passer. But the ‘can’t make a mistake or else I’m benched’ mindset is not helpful in the development of this or any QB.
FOURTH HOYER DRIVE
Browns take over after Skins punt.
Play 11: Handoff.
Play 12: Handoff.
Play 13: Perfect walk through progressions to find safety valve Gray with lots of green around him. Hoyer hits him in stride, easy twelve yard gain. And Gray fumbles. I shouldn’t have to point this out but since no one else has taken the time to explore these subtle nuances: fumbles by fullbacks 20 yards away from Brian Hoyer are outside of Brian Hoyer’s control.
Play 14 was a silly pass (completion) right before halftime for who knows why but it was the only pass play where everything went right.
And that’s it. Fourteen snaps for Hoyer. And all is lost and we have no quarterback and we should delay naming a starter and if they both suck start the first round pick with higher ceiling and blah, Blah, BLAH. You guys were silly in your analyses yesterday. Because here is the summary of Hoyer’s night.
Hoyer got fourteen snaps.
Six were handoffs.
That leaves eight plays.
On six of those eight plays, play-killing mistakes were made by just about every one of his teammates:
- Quick snap by Mack.
- False start by Thomas.
- Got hit in the ass by thrown ball by Cameron.
- Drop/miss by Hawkins. (50% on Hoyer.)
- Drop by Gordon.
- Miss by Hawkins. (80% on Hoyer.)
- Fumble by Gray.
I repeat: on approximately six1 of the eight pass plays Hoyer tried to execute, his teammates failed.
The breadth of fail by Hoyer’s teammates is comprehensive and epic. If you add in Schwartz, the math says 70% of Hoyer’s teammates let him down Monday.
And the Cleveland media and blogosphere and commentariat is just murdering Hoyer.
It ain’t right.
I’m not even saying Hoyer was good, yeah sure I’d like him to hit that TD to Hawk. But mother of christ… look at what he was working with.
Take a good long look at Rex Grossman in this picture. Is that Peter Griffin and are we the now the London Silly Nannies? There can be no way he gets a roster spot over Connor Shaw. Please no more Ken Dorseys.
And finally, completely unrelated but hilarious.
Seriously I can’t stop laughing at this Drennan clip.
“And then he gives a guy the finger!”
- I’m trying to factor in blame-weighting on the two Hawkins plays. Hawkins could have made a play on both. Would have been very good plays, yes. But he didn’t. It’s not like Hoyer went all Andy Dalton out there. [back]