What we’re hoping for in day two.


May require additional Farmer shenanigans and totally worth it.

Let’s just go through some name we’ll be hearing tonight and I’ll offer my two cents.  I had Deone Bucannon in my wish list post, but he’s gone.  Who else looks good?  Who might be a train wreck?  Here’s some thumbnails of guys I do and don’t like based mainly on my the info I’ve soaked up in the last couple months.


At #35 — happy.

  1. Jordan Matthews, WR – Vandy; My top choice.  Huge hands.  Prototype size-speed.  Guts over the middle.  Makes plays in traffic.
  2. Austin Seferian-Jenkins, TE – Washington; I just think a backup plan on Jordan Cameron would be prudent.  I guess this is out of left field but it makes sense when you think about it.
  3. Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB – Nebraska; I suppose this is a long shot with other needs trumping cornerback.  But this is the guy if you want to help Whitner change the personality of the d-backfield.
  4. Allen Robinson, WR – Penn State; Frankly haven’t researched him myself.  People I trust like him.
  5. Martavis Bryant, WR – Clemson; This is your high ceiling athletic guy for if you’re pining for Mike Evans.  Faster than Watkins.  Hey that’s what his coaches said.
  6. Tre Mason, RB – Auburn; What a running back should be.  Have seen him rated lower than other backs, disagree.  Know we have Ben Tate, would still be a good/great pick in second round.
  7. Kareem Martin, DE – UNC; Feels too early for a non-need development project but read the McGinn report on this guy.Mason

At #35 — meh.

I don’t hate these guys and if Farmer takes them, that’ll be good enough for me.  They just don’t thrill me.

  • Xavier Su’a-Filo.  Can get guards/tackles later and easier than first round rated ‘skill’ positions.
  • Marquise Lee.  McShay had a factoid this morning saying that Lee had the highest drop percentage among the WR prospects last year.  The one thing we can’t have are drops.
  • Joel Bitonio.  Bode likes him, I don’t know him, see Sua-Filo comment.
  • Cody Latimer.  Always suspicious of pro-day draft stock risers.
  • Carlos Hyde.  Hyde simply didn’t blow me away when I watched him.  Mason did.
  • Kyle Van Noy.  I dunno, feels like the Chuck Knoublach of linebackers.  Fundamentally sound.  And that’s fine..byutd.0_standard_709.0

At #35 — do not want.

  • Cyrus Kouandijo, OT – Bama; Seems beat.  Unimpressive all last year.  Injured?  Stay away.
  • Morgan Moses, OT – UVA; Moved like an old man at the combine.
  • Chris Borland, LB – Wisc; Shortest arms at combine, 29.5.  How do you play through NFL blocks with those?  Love his game.  Maybe on day three.
  • Davante Adams, WR – Fresno; Classic scout quote in McGinn: ““All his big games were against (expletive) competition like Hawaii”
  • Jeremiah Attaochu, LB – GaTech; Saw him dogging it on that total dog GT defense.  That whole team is toxic.  Do not want.

At #71 — want.

  1. Gabe Jackson, OG – Missy State; If he’s here in the third, don’t think twice.  Yeah, I know he didn’t wow people at the combine but he is a guard.  ZBS or not, as long as Shanny is looking to revive the Browns’ Sweep, Jackson will be good for the next ten-fifteen years.
  2. Phillip Gaines, CB – Rice; Cornerback is such a value position.  I’ll never say no to decent-sized talented athletes here.
  3. Jack Mewhort, OT – Ohio State; Crushes John Simon in the circle drill.Meaux_Isom
  4. Pierre Desir, CB – Lindenwood; See Gaines above.
  5. Paul Richardson, WR – Colorado; His McGinn report reads like a Mike Wallace description.
  6. Antonio Richardson, OT – Tennessee; Has long arms and lots of bench reps.  The McGinn report on him is not great.  Coaching project with big payoff.  I think I just talked myself out of this pick.
  7. Jimmy Garoppolo, QB – EIU; I guess this would be a little cray cray but as long as we’re doing a QB competition thing…
  8. Zach Mettenberger, QB – LSU; Really undervalued, don’t know why no one likes him.  Plus he won in the epic “Mo Versus” that launched a million gifs.

At #71 — meh.

  • Bishop Sankey, RB – Washington; Did not like the Emmitt Smith comparison in the McGinn report.
  • Brandon Thomas, OT/G – Clemson; He’s out this year with a torn ACL.  Would be a Barrett Jones like insurance value pick.  Not sure we’re talent-rich enough for that and besides, Pinkston is our man for that.gif.mocksession.com_wp-content_uploads_2011_10_settle-the-f-down

At #71 — do not want.

  • Marcus Roberson, CB – Florida; Just a dog in the combine.
  • Lamarcus Joyner, CB – FSU; He’s 5-8 or 5-9.
  • David Yankey, OG – Stanford; Jonathan Martin part two.
  • AJ McCarron, QB – Bama.  Dead to me.
  • Andre Ellington, WR – SCAR.  Short.  If we draft a short guy, it must be Archer.

Special trade back into the third round late tonight move — DO WANT!!

Dri Archer, RB/WR – Kent; He’s a must-get but also a luxury so I slot him behind Jackson.  He’s Tavon Austin if you don’t have to trade EJ Manuel and Kiko Alonzo to get him and if you like your ‘explosive’ ‘playmakers’ to run faster, jump higher, and be stronger.  Given that Austin went #7 last year, Dri Archer is top five talent minus the hype machine.

  • actovegin1armstrong

    I saw this on a “scouting report” about the Great Man-Zealforfootball.

    “On his psyche:

    Couple of TXTC sources say can’t yell/scream at him or he shuts down; has walked away from Kingsbury in the past.”

    Wrong coach, wrong team, idiots! It is only a 7 hour drive from Texas Tech to Texas A&M, perhaps coach Kliff just popped over to give JFF some advice.

    • mgbode

      or Kliff was his OC in JFF’s Heisman campaign. TxTech took a few coaches with Kliff from A&M, so I could see them more willing to talk now that they are not associated with him.

  • zarathustra

    Assuming m. Bryant is gone by the time the browns pick. Guys I am looking at are kain colter, antone exum, and max bullough.

  • from his twitter photos, west looks like the good maurice clarrett in build and gym-rat-ness. he will be hard to tackle.

  • good report on west too.

    6. TERRANCE WEST, Towson (5-9, 225, 4.56, 3) – Was working selling shoes after high school graduation in Baltimore when he hopped on two different buses each day to try out at nearby Towson. “He made it that way,” one scout said. “He has a little bit of an edge. He’s a real street kid. But the guy has some hunger and football’s important to him.” Carried 802 times, most by one of the top backs, for 4,849 yards (6.1) and 84 TDs to go with 36 receptions. “Dominated I-AA football,” the scout said. “He’s not a blazer but he’s a 4.5 guy. He’s a yoked-up 225. Good feet. Knows how to play. Good hands. For a guy that was the back of I-AA football, pretty good pass pro guy. He’s been the king of his level and school.” Turned off one scout with what he described as a know-it-all attitude. “Doesn’t take coaching,” he said. “You might as well not even waste your time.” Fourth-year junior. Payton Award finalist. 41 rush TDs last year.

  • kirksey’s mcginn report is good.

    7. CHRISTIAN KIRKSEY, Iowa (6-2, 234, 4.57, 4-5) – Played out of position in the middle most of his career. Got a shot on the weak side at the Senior Bowl and flourished. “He wasn’t strong enough for middle and they put him in position where he’d never make any plays,” said one scout. “He’s the best of the three Iowa (LBs). He’s athletic.” Finished with 315 tackles (13½ for loss), 5½ sacks and 16 big plays. “Very good Senior Bowl week,” another scout said. “Nowadays everyone is so undersized, anyways. I think he can play inside but he’s going to have to have some help. Very athletic and really instinctive. I’m betting on the come with him.” From St. Louis.

    looks like he runs a 4.5-ish 40 too so that’s good.

  • And of course the Steelers take Archer.

    • that’s a problem.

      • I’m OK with the West pick as I think it signals the type of player the Browns are looking at for the position, at least in terms of his size and ability to run between the tackles. Not sure so about the whole not listening to the coach thing, though.

  • zarathustra

    I’m still not happy about JFF, but am thrilled with everything else. I don’t have a great feel on some of these guys, but love love love that it appears that they followed their board and didn’t reach for need. And they had a pretty big need at receiver even before today.

    • yeah, i know noting on kirksey but read that he’s a fluid hipped coverage LB.
      and terrance west was definitely productive (41 rush tds) is a total baltimore guy whose pick got under the skin of ravens fans so that’s good.

  • actovegin1armstrong

    Gordon needs to go. I do not care if he is Paul “Fancy” Warfield, cut him! Johnny “Fancy” Football may certainly find some other kids to play catch with.

  • zarathustra

    “Corner is a value position.” Amen.
    And another amen on mettenberger. Way undervalued. I don’t have a problem with any of your assessments for the picks. At 71 I am also intrigued by troy Niklas and moncrief.

    • actovegin1armstrong

      Metten-token-berger can not take a couple of days off the chronic. He needs to go to Denver with Josh Weed-Gordon.
      I am not Carry Nation fighting the subtle herb, but come on idiots take a week off!

      • zarathustra

        I will spare you a sojourn down the rabbit hole with me where I refer to cannabis as a plant medicine and chide the league for their draconian policies.
        Josh Gordon appears to have some issues and may not be that bright to boot.

        • actovegin1armstrong

          I really hope that you threw “sojourn down the rabbit hole” to counter my Carrie Nation reference. As in “Sojourner Truth”, people forget that her most famous speech “Ain’t I a Woman?” was delivered at an Abolitionist meeting in Akron.
          How insufferably erudite of you zara, that should get you some extra, “you told me” points. I mean that with all due respect, no sarcasm intended.

          • zarathustra

            No extra points for me. I gave up erudition for lent and haven’t gotten around to picking it back up.

  • actovegin1armstrong

    Trade Gordon to Denver. NOW!

  • actovegin1armstrong

    WOO HOO!!
    The Browns will move Bitonio to guard!

    • mgbode

      yes, definitely have to do it with his arm length and puts him in an absolutely great position to succeed. I hope Tate and West like running to their right.

      • actovegin1armstrong

        Long arms are a disadvantage, especially when said lineman has his arms tucked in so the zebras can not see him grabbing defenders between the numbers to give a few more seconds for JFF to create.

        • mgbode

          on OGs, I completely agree. easier to generate the power needed too.

          on OTs, I disagree. those wide-9 DE’s are easier to steer when you have the long arms to reach them.

  • where’s bode? his bitonio man-love is ready to consummate.

    • mgbode

      apologies. weekends are all about baseball and I try to disconnect for the most part. I threw a few comments up at WFNY, but that was it.

      all you had to do though was link to the KRM. I was not exactly dull in my praise. I am very happy that we took so many guys that I liked in this draft with Gilbert and Bitonio fighting for my favorite.

      • actovegin1armstrong

        “weekends are all about little league baseball”
        That is terrific! I loved LLB. What position do you play?

        • mgbode


          well, it’s coach-pitch, so I am the backup pitcher (and head-coach). my older son is 1B and my younger son is catcher. I wish I got into it more when I was a kid.

          • actovegin1armstrong

            Bode you are firmly in the running for dad of the year! You do lose points for letting your son play catcher. My catcher from school days still uses his arthritic hands to send me poorly typed hate mail.
            Bupa is high up there in the dad of the year running because he lets the Bupettes take him for walks and give him flea baths.

          • mgbode

            well, if his hands go athritic, then it’s because his knees never gave out, so I’d have to consider it a win.

            he just loves being involved on every play and gets bored otherwise (he’s only 6yo). not sure if that’s where he will end up once he gets to kid-pitch.

            and, I get to watch live baseball 3-4 nights a week while playing catch with my kids for months on end. it’s as much for me as it is for them 🙂

  • bupalos

    Good god. For weed. Come on. Weed is like methedone for Gordon, it’s part of his treatment program for drank.

    Goddam it.

    • Petefranklin

      How could he not buy a kit or something?

  • actovegin1armstrong

    Kyle Van Noy
    Or, another member of the famous football family Jordan Matthews.

  • Petefranklin

    Gordon is such an idiot!

    • but his agent says it’s not true. if you can’t trust drew rosenhaus, then i dont know what.

      • Petefranklin

        What’s not true, that Gordon isn’t an idiot?

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