MGBode’s Browns pick at 35, prologue. #KRM

It's been awhile since an impact first round.

It’s been a long while since an impact first round.

Pulling in with the Browns’ pick at #35 is MGBode.  And what we have here is special bonus Browns talk + this years draft + plus history lessons.  I hope it’s crappy weather where you are so you can feel right settling in to devour part one of Browns #35 which I might be entitled:  The Six Stooges or Fifteen Years of Pain or something else that’s not coming to me right now.

By the way, hegemony means:  “Leadership or dominance, especially by one country or social group over others.  ‘Germany was united under Prussian hegemony after 1871.'”  You’ll thank me for this.

Without further ado, here’s Bode.


History of the ’99-present Browns FO and their draft plans

I understand that it can be painful to drudge up the past and that Farmer+Scheiner+Pettine regime should not be held responsible for mistakes of the past.  However, it is important to review our history and see those mistakes so that our team does not make those mistakes again and that we are able to recognize it if they do.  Especially so, considering that we do not have much of a history to determine what Ray Farmer may do as the lead man in a draft.  But, if this long form is too much for you, then just skip to the bottom section where I do a quick summary on the lessons learned.

The dysfunction of our new-Browns can be summed up in one simple sentence:  seven different front office regimes in 15 years.

That is seven different POVs on team culture and the types of players we should develop and the views of the current players and on which should be kept.   Even on terrible teams, front offices almost always get two head coaches before they get the boot because you at least want to give them a chance to see if their plan was working but not being executed properly.  Not on our team, where it was rare that a front office could even sign a player it drafted to a second contract (see table) and the only two FOs1 ever to hire two head coaches were fired (or forced to resign depending on the spin you believe) quickly after making the hire.

 

Regime Drafts in Charge Picks Starters* 2nd Contracts 4th – 7th round starters
Policy/Clark 2 24 6 1 1
Butch Davis** 4 29 14 2 5
Phil Savage** 4 30 8 4 4
Eric Mangini 1 8 3 1 1
Tom Heckert 3 27 12 0*** 3
Joe Banner 1 5 0**** 0**** 0****
*Starters – had to start more than a single season.
**Butch numbers include Pontbriand as a starter.  Savage numbers include Josh Cribbs despite being UDFA.
***So far, only TJ and Lauvao have been possibilities and Farmer passed on both.
****All as rookies, obviously this could change

 

1.  Carson Policy, Dwight Clark (w/ Chris Palmer)

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When the Cavaliers were an expansion franchise, their GM and assistant went down to the local grocery store and spent $20 on bubble gum cards, which they utilized as the extent of their expansion draft scouting.  It would not be a surprise to find that Clark followed a similar methodology.  Of the 37 players he selected, three started more than four games for the Browns2 and only two players out-lasted Clark’s two seasons as sole GM3 with the team (and neither a starter:  STers Lenoy Jones and Raymond Jackson).  And yes, I get that the expansion list was garbage and there were retired players on it like Reggie White, but we still did a terrible job even considering the list.  Of course, he didn’t fare much better in the actual draft either despite the fact that as an expansion team if the players were any good at all, then they would start.

Starters Drafted* (Italics indicate 4th-7th round pick, Bold indicates 2nd contract received)
Daylon McCutcheon, Tim Couch, Kevin Johnson, Courtney Brown, Dennis Northcutt, Wali Rainer

Second round picks:   Kevin Johnson, Rahim Abdullah, Dennis Northcutt

What was his strategy?  He went with veteran OL in free agency and the expansion draft and used the early rounds for skill positions (QB, WR, RB, Pass rushing DE) and lots of DBs in the middle-to-late rounds (five picks in two years in third to fifth rounds).   In the second round, he went with WRs who had obvious flaws, but had elite characteristics (KJ = hands, Northcutt = quickness).  I still don’t get the Abdullah pick as he was a slow, thumping OLB (of course, we repeated that mistake trying Gocong at OLB years later).   DBN(Pokorny) listed Abdullah as the third biggest Browns draft bust a couple years back.

What is the lesson?  Do not undervalue the LOS positions and you cannot build a successful (or even a mediocre) team if you never hit on late draft picks.  In the second round, you are not usually going to get guys who have elite characteristics across the board.  But, you need to make sure that their non-elite skills are not going completely destroy their ability to play.

2. Butch Davis Hegemony

00SDAVISfThe hope with Butch was that he would utilize all of his college connections to find out the real deal on prospects much like Jimmie Johnson did when coming to the Cowboys from the dominant Hurricane teams of the 1980s.  Unfortunately, as we learned later, Butch was not nearly as gregarious and didn’t have the same college network.  Not only that but he thought he could control ANY situation, any personality and he ended up filling the locker room with uncontrollable crazies (Gerard Warren’s arrests/fines, William Green’s umm, let’s say issues or KJ’s issues with William Green, I guess at least Pharms never hurt the locker room, and we could go on for a while here).

What was strange was that Butch followed the Policy/Clark lead and continued to ignore OL.  He made 5 OL choices (+Pontbriand as a LS) in those drafts, but three of them were in the sixth or seventh rounds.  The other two picks were OC.4 So, he made ZERO picks to try to find true starters for OT/OG.  For the younger fans, please remember this six year expansion start when some of us older guys (I count as older, right?) seem overly focused on the OL.

In the end, he ended up being too power-hungry and couldn’t control the messed up characters that he drafted.  In his last draft, we should have seen that he was anxious about the state of the team as he morphed into a heavy-trader.5

Of course, what more can you expect from a guy who said:  “I’m going to steal something I heard David Duval say,” Butch Davis says of the British Open champ. “You lay it on the line; you give it everything you’ve got; and if you don’t win, that shouldn’t mean everything.  The reality is there can be success without wins.”

And inspired the following quote upon his departure during the season from fullback Terrelle Smith: “He settled for $12 million.  To me that looks like, `OK, I’m taking $12 million, I’ll see you guys later.’  I mean, battle.  Fight to the finish with us.”

Perhaps all of that is being unfair to the only HC who led us to the playoffs (the guy could definitely coach and surrounded himself with good coaches) and did an okay job overall in the draft by our pathetic standards.  But, that is what happens when he is the big reason we lost that playoff game to our arch-rival.

Starters Drafted (Italics indicate 4th-7th round pick, Bold indicates 2nd contract received)
Andra Davis, Ryan Pontbriand, Anthony Henry, Quincy Morgan, Gerard Warren,William Green, Kellen Winslow Jr., Sean Jones
Melvin Fowler, Kevin Bentley, Ben Taylor, Jeff Faine, Chaun Thompson, Chris Crocker,

Second round picks:   Quincy Morgan, Andre Davis, Chaun Thompson, Sean Jones

What was his strategy?  Looked for guys who seemed to fit the mold of NFL player while completely ignoring character/work ethic.  In the second round, he went Al Davis on us with incredible athletic specimens who weren’t necessarily the best football player.  Quincy and Andre couldn’t catch the ball (though they looked incredible running on the field).  Chaun also looked the part, but didn’t play it.  Sean Jones had both athleticism and football instincts until, sadly, a knee injury took away much of his athleticism.

What is the lesson?  Do not undervalue LOS positions (echo, echo).  Great athletes still need great film.  Bad characters cannot be controlled without an existing strong locker room.  If a team starts suddenly becoming trade heavy in the draft, then it’s likely that their seat is getting hot.  And, four WRs were picked with second round picks in our first four drafts post-expansion.  None of those players ended up being great and only two could even have been considered above average at any point in their relatively short careers (Kevin Johnson and maybe Dennis Northcutt if you add in his PR and uncanny abilities on onside kicks).  So:  fear the second round WR.

3.  Phil Savage (w/ Romeo Crennel)

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Phil loved making trades and he loved talking (hence why he is now Alabama’s radio man).  He would make big moves up to go and get the guys he coveted (Eric Wright and Brady Quinn) and would give away draft picks like Halloween candy if he could get back marginal veteran talent (Corey Williams).  He would talk up the phones like crazy on draft day and move around.  Honestly, it was fun following those drafts because we didn’t know who he would take, but it would be a fun ride getting there.  But, looking back, the best teams trust their board and execute a plan.  They do not make trades for the sake of making trades.  For instance, it was noted at the time that Savage had Wimbley and Ngata even on his board, so he asked Romeo if he would prefer a pass rusher or a DT.  Even beyond getting the board wrong, if you have two evenly rated players, then why would you pay a division rival to move up 1 slot when you are guaranteed one of them where you sit?

In the end, he made some big mis-steps near the end of his tenure by trading away too much of the 2008 draft and doubled-down on that mistake by not selling high on Derek Anderson.6 And, lest we forget, he was a complete PR disaster between how he handled the staph-infections (particularly with Kellen) and his responses to fans via email among the more popular issues (again, surprising considering he likes to talk to the media).

Starters Drafted (Italics indicate 4th-7th round pick, Bold indicates 2nd contract received)
Braylon Edwards, Brodney Pool, Lawrence Vickers, D’Qwell Jackson, Kamerion Wimbley,
Joe Thomas, Eric Wright, Brandon McDonald, Ahtyba Rubin

Second round picks:   Brodney Pool, D’Qwell Jackson, Eric Wright, *traded away*

What was his strategy?  Phil was almost a pure need drafter (which throws me for a loop when I remember he came from Baltimore).  You could lay out the needs of the team like we do each offseason and he would go and target those areas in FA and the draft.  It wouldn’t matter if there was a Ware or Merriman available if the need was higher at WR (Braylon).  Drafting for need is somewhat responsible, but he did seem to take it to the extreme.  Also, he got panicky to put together a good season and traded away our entire 2008 draft (top 3 rounds at least) for what was a fun year (2007), but ultimately fell short of the playoffs despite 10 wins (stupid Colts).  Still, that need based drafting did net us Joe Thomas (thankfully) and D’Qwell.  Also, in the second round, neither Pool or Wright were complete disasters for us, which, sadly, is a bit of a win in that round.

What is the lesson?  ?  Do not undervalue LOS positions (echo, echo).   Trust your board.  A GM who trades away all of his top draft picks is likely to be fired without immediate and continued success.

4.  Eric Mangini Hegemony (sort of w/ Kokinis)

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Oh, what to say about Eric Mangini and that 2009 draft?  Really, his big mistakes were not getting enough for the trade down to #21 from #5 (as Julio trade demonstrated) and all three second round selections in a well stacked second round.  Looking back though, it was a one player draft (as many Browns drafts end up being) and that one player was pretty darn good (Alex Mack).  Sure, Unger has been just as good and was had in the second round, but we will take every single player that gets a second contract with the Browns as a win.  Also, his late drafting was not terrible.  Maiava, Carey, Francies, and James Davis all got NFL playing time, stuck around with multiple teams for multiple years.  No great players, but useful depth (again, with the Browns that is a win for late in the draft).  Unfortunately, the best of those marginal players was unwisely gambled away on a roster decision in August and never played a down for our team (Carey).

Starters Drafted (Italics indicate 4th-7th round pick, Bold indicates 2nd contract received)
Alex Mack, Mohamed Massaquoi, Kaluke Maiava

Second round picks:  Brian Robiskie, Mohamed Massaquoi, David Veikune

What was his strategy?  Eric continued the pure need drafting as OL, WR, LB were our biggest holes and that is what he drafted with his five top52-overall picks.

What is the lesson?  ? Beware the second round WR.  Motor/Hustle/Character do not trump Talent/Speed/Skill.  Yes, you want all of those in a prospect, but you cannot ignore lack of talent because the kid works hard (I wish it worked that way, but we all know it doesn’t).

5.  Holmgren & Heckert

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One of the great debates that I believe may endure over the years is which picks were from Heckert and which were from Holmgren over-riding his GM as was often rumored (Richardson trade-up, Weeden, and Colt picks most often cited).

In the end, the 2012 draft soured a lot of the good he had done previously (thankfully, Josh Gordon was there to help salvage it a bit though in the supplemental) and the hiring of Banner by Haslam sealed his fate.

Starters Drafted (Italics indicate 4th-7th round pick, Bold indicates 2nd contract received)
Joe Haden, TJ Ward, Shawn Lauvao, Greg Little, Jabaal Sheard, Phil Taylor, Trent Richardson,
Brandon Weeden, Mitchell Schwartz, Billy Winn, Buster Skrine, Jordan Cameron

Second round picks:   TJ Ward, Montario Hardesty, Jabal Sheard, Greg Little, Mitchell Schwartz, Josh Gordon

What was his strategy?  Tom was willing to ignore some red flags in the second round to get what he considered first round talent.  Sometimes it worked out (Ward-health, Sheard-character, Gordon-character) and sometimes it didn’t (Hardesty-health, Little-character&position).  Really, the one time that he went with the low risk guy was when he picked Schwartz over Glenn (who had some weight issues in college).

What is the lesson?  The second round is not for the weak.  Tom & Phil can fight over who did the best in the second round, but Heckert’s boom or bust philosophy did okay by our second round standards at least.  And, the supplemental draft may avoid the second round WR curse?

6.  Banner & Lombardi

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So many ways to look at the 2013 draft.   You could look at it and see that we only had five picks and that four of those five picks still have a chance at panning out despite three of them being in the sixth and seventh round (Mingo, McFadden, Bryant and Gilkey have all shown glimpses).  Or, you can look at it and realize that we had zero rookie starters on an incredibly young team who desperately needed an infusion of hope (those same four guys were extremely inconsistent) and he admittedly passed up a trade-down offer due to a belief in Mingo that has not yet been justified.   But, honestly, it is just too soon to really judge that draft.  The early indication though is that they were smart to trade out of the fourth and fifth rounds as only Zac Stacy took a starting role (and we weren’t drafting another RB).7   So, at least we have more ammunition this year.8

Starters Drafted (Italics indicate 4th-7th round pick, Bold indicates 2nd contract received)
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 Second round picks:  None – lost due to Heckert’s selection of Josh Gordon (no one complaining presently about it either)

What was his strategy?   I could comb through the Eagles draft history (and did), but it’s hard to get too much of a strategy from Banner when Reid and Roseman (later years) were said to have just as much influence if not more in those drafts.  His lone draft for us was that he attempted to make value plays at his spots.

What is the lesson?  If you want more than 1 draft, then don’t be a <insert vulgar adjective here> egomaniac especially in front of your boss (Haslam).

7.  Ray Farmer (w/ Mike Pettine)

Well, wouldn’t you like to know (I sure would).  We’ll dive into what I think they’ll do based on this mock and what we know about them and our beloved team tomorrow.

Now that everyone’s eyes have glazed over…

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Bullet points on lessons learned:
  • Trust your board.
  • Do not be an egomaniac
    • To balance with the trusting your board it means trusting your scouts who helped create your board – do not over-rule 3-4 months of work on a whim.
  • Need is important, but shouldn’t trump guys who are obviously better talents.
  • Boom or bust on guys with red flags is not a terrible strategy.
  • Do not undervalue LOS positions
    • You cannot utilize skill guys if you lose the LOS battle.
  • You don’t need a ton from later rounds, but you better not whiff on everyone either.
  • Second round guys won’t be elite across the board, so you better make sure their non-elite characteristics don’t make them non-viable NFL players.
    • Butch corollary – great athletes still need great film
    • WR corollary – fear the second round WR (unless it’s the supplemental draft)

…and we can get to the fun part.

Who would each of these FOs pick in this year’s draft at #35?

And, please note that I am trying to do my best to guess who they might pick here.  I am not picking guys I expect to be bad just to make a joke as tempting as it is to do.  Please feel free to do so in the comments though.

Policy&Clark – Davante Adams, WR, Fresno StateDavante-Adams-Fresno-State-5835

I always found it humorous that the 6’4” Dwight Clark loved his WRs smaller and quicker.  It’s as if it was post-career jealously of Jerry Rice (at 6’2” wasn’t exactly short, but his quickness made him as a WR).  And, Dri Archer is really just a better version of Northcutt and we definitely need a WR2.   But, we already have Hawkins AND Benjamin for diminutive WRs.  So, even Dwight would likely go a little bigger for WR, no?  In the end, I decided that Dwight might just get enamored about Davante Adams TDs and take him to pair with Derek Carr (who we already took in the KRM).

Butch DavisQuincy Morgan Donte Moncrief, WR, Ole Miss.Donte Moncrief

The guy is an amazing athlete that looks like he should be a great WR and gets open.  There’s just that pesky little thing about catching the ball holding him back (and he uses bad form with his hands, so I’m not so sure it’s easily correctable after all of our past attempts at correcting that issue).  Just watch Sammy Watkins and how he envelops the ball, then watch Moncrief.

Savage & Crennel – Jimmie Ward, S, NIU122265cda59b98e0b037f37e338fe95c

Phil will pick to need and I decided to stick with defense since all three of his second round picks were on that side of the ball.  I really wanted to plug in at least Ryan Shazier as ILB here, but that is a position switch from the projected spot for him that I am not sure Savage would have been willing to go after.  So, I am going with the highest rated defender at a position of dire need for us here.  It would be funny to have Jimmie somewhat replace TJ as our Ward safety, but Jimmie’s versatility is what would sell him to Savage.  He can play deep as FS, up close as SS, and even has some potential as a slot-CB when we go with a dime defense.

Mangini  – Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt.Jordan-Matthews_20130106184258692_660_320

Really, he’s the guy who I feel most strongly of all the picks for the respective GM’s here.  Mangini might also consider Bitonio (great character and tenacity), but I think Jordan would win him over as everything that Eric had hoped Robiskie could be (not sure Jordan can be what he wants either, but still).  Jordan is the cousin of Jerry Rice, which is a nice start for that character Mangini cherishes and the fact he went to academic Vanderbilt also is a notch in the positive ledger.   That he is a willing blocker and was a team captain would likely win him over despite average speed (at best) and some issues on route running (not quick enough on cuts).   He could be a good WR2 though if he can get clean releases in the NFL.

Holmgren & Heckert – Gabe Jackson, OG, Mississippi StateGabe Jackson

The classic boom or bust Heckert pick here.  Gabe Jackson is a behemoth who can absolutely maul people in the run game and just stand his ground in the pass game.  However, he has some major red flags.  He is by far the most overweight OL and has had issues with it in college.  That weight issue led him to being the slowest OL at the combine in nearly all drills.  His weight could also lead to more medical issues and is likely part of the reason he is flagged for not always playing intense on the field (as anyone who gets out of shape and tries to play sports can attest).  But, if he commits and pulls a Cordy Glenn on conditioning?  Well, then you may have just drafted the best OG in this class.

Banner & LombardiDee Ford, OLB, Auburn  (Okay, okay.  That was just to make ole kanick’s head explode at another pass rusher from those guys).    Bashaud Breeland, CB, Clemson0105FB157_t607

I have to go off something, so I am going off that the Eagles tended to draft more on the fringes in the second round when he was in charge (or in collaboration).  I went WR above, so I figured I should have him pick CB to mix it up here.  It came down to Breeland and McGill.  I wanted to include Sammy’s brother Jaylen, but he’s been way too brittle (three surgeries and now he hurt his Achilles’ at the senior bowl).   Maybe a later round steal?   Anyway, I went Breeland because while he is slightly smaller in stature, he is much quicker (McGill worst 3-cone drill of all DBs.) and he plays bigger than McGill (great in run support and just stronger at this point).  McGill has a slightly higher ceiling,9 but I have not seen enough consistent play from him while Breeland is very good consistently.   So, he gets my vote here.


But none of these are the official “who will Ray Farmer take” pick.  Tune in tomorrow, the pick is in.

Thanks Bode.

To review, here’s the picks so far.

Pick #TeamSelection
(linked to KRM post)
Reader
1TexansBlake Bortlesjpftribe
2RamsGreg RobinsonDave Kolonich
3JaguarsSammy WatkinsClevTA
4BrownsJadeveon ClowneyZarathustra
5RaidersKhalil MackPete Franklin
6FalconsJake MatthewsOXR
7BucsJohnny ManzielPeterM
8VikingsTeddy Bridgewatertrashycamaro
9BillsTaylor Lewanclay
10LionsHa’Sean Clinton-Dixbluedog93
11TitansAnthony Barrkanick
12GiantsEric EbronRod of Disaster
13RamsMike EvansMatt Borcas
14BearsAaron DonaldJRich
15SteelersDarqueze Dennard tmoore94
16CowboysLouis NixGrandRapidsRustlers
17RavensJustin GilbertMGBode
18JetsBrandin CooksZarathustra
19DolphinsZack Martintrashycamaro
20CardinalsCalvin PryorJRich
21PackersJace AmaroClevTA
22EaglesMarqise LeeGrandRapidsRustlers
23ChiefsRa'Shede Hagemanclay
24BengalsBradley RobyOXR
25ChargersKyle Fullertexinottawa
26BrownsDerek CarrChuckKoz
27SaintsOdell Beckham tmoore94
28PanthersXavier Su'a-Filojpftribe
29PatriotsTimmy Jerniganbluedog93
30NinersJason VerrettRod of Disaster
31BroncosCJ MosleyPete Franklin
32SeahawksCameron FlemingDave Kolonich
33 (2nd rd)TexansTroy NiklasMatt Borcas
34RedskinsStephon Tuittkanick
35BrownsRyan ShazierMGBode
36Raiders

                          

  1. 1. Carmen Policy/Dwight Clark – hired Chris Palmer & Butch Davis.  Ceded all control to Butch upon hiring him and Clark was gone after 1 season.  Policy remained, but Randy completely separated him to the business side before giving control to John Collins.

    2. Joe Banner/Mike Lombardi – they technically were part of the hiring process for Mike Pettine though fired a week later.  That has to be a NFL record, right? [back]

  2. All OL, which is a position he ignored in the actual draft – Jim Pyne, Jim Bundren, Scott Rehberg. [back]
  3. Can we agree to ignore that Dwight Clark was officially the GM for 2001 and accept that Butch Davis was in control?   Yeah, I thought so. [back]
  4. Wohlabaugh, Fowler, Faine, Fraley, Mack – the one non-ST position we have been blessed since our return has been OC where all the players have been at least passable.  Glad to see that will continue for at least 2 more seasons of good play there thanks to Jacksonville helping us out. [back]
  5. None more ill-fated than giving up a second round pick so that the Lions could select Roy Williams at #7 instead of #6 and we could take Kellen Winslow. [back]
  6. rumors were that the Dolphins and Cowboys wanted him and were willing to pay a first rounder + more — Dallas may have then traded him to Baltimore, which would have been a double-win in hindsight [back]
  7. Flagged!  Barrett Jones was available in the fourth round due to a broken foot/leg and thus he did not start for the Rams.  I daresay having a healthy Barrett Jones coming into this year’s camp changes much of our current o-line discussion.  Ditto that on Ryan Nassib Landry Jones.  Just because he was unable to unseat Eli Manning Ben Roethlisberger doesn’t mean he might not have been a significant contributor on last year’s Browns let alone part of the future.  Sanders Commings and Tharold Simon would have immediately become the longest d-backs on the roster.  I could go on. [back]
  8. Though it was absolutely frustrating that they punted both FA & the draft when we desperately needed talent, but that is a separate issue.  I will thank him for making value-based trades both in the draft and with Richardson.  Hopefully, Farmer can utilize that value well. [back]
  9. Although McGill will be 25 this fall so has less time to find ceiling. [back]

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  • Well bode, you said I’d likely appreciate your work on this pick, and you weren’t kidding. Love this portion, and not just because it helps to reinforce one thing in particular I’ve long believed in drafting (LOS first). Fascinating to look back at the tragicomedy that has been this franchise since ’99. Great work.

    • mgbode

      thank you; the idea for this preview/history pick setup was through the conversations I have had with you and a few others on WFNY. the “well, you know Butch would take this guy and Mangini would be all over that prospect” type discussions. glad you enjoyed it.

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  • mgbode

    On footnote7 from Kanick: was basing what I said specifically on who helped their teams in 2014 and not trying to guess what might have happened here. It was a value based trade and that part I can understand.

    Again though, I agree with you that if we were going to leave so many glaring holes with cap room after FA, then we were not in position to afford the luxury of those trades. Let’s hope together that Farmer uses them wisely now.

    • right. and btw, im not cherry picking on jones, i really wanted him there. that being said.. let’s see how the steelers’ third rounder pans out for us.

      • mgbode

        yes, I know you did. and yeah, just explaining why I wrote it up that way. you know I agree with you on how things were handled. really hoping one of the guys we have been discussing drops to that pick. it would be doubly-sweet to have that 3rd rounder be a starter that haunts Pitt. “Sha-Mar-Ko” could then become a fun chant at games.

  • MrCleaveland

    mg, my cyber friend, if I could say this privately I would.

    You lost me at LOS. I’ve been a football fan all my life, and I have no idea what LOS means. I googled and I still don’t know.

    You’ve got to stick to well known abbreviations and ease off on POVs, FOs, STer, DBN, etc. Too much “inside baseball” here.

    • mgbode

      no worries. LOS = Line Of Scrimmage. I must be too ingrained in the corporate world where the acronyms fly off the page. Duly noted and apologies if it made things difficult to read.

      • actovegin1armstrong

        This was a classic “straight line” mgbode, there blossomed a veritable cornucopia of comments, loaded with acronyms of a nature raucous, randy and full of ill repute.
        You came up with Line of Scrimmage. What were you thinking?
        I would help, but my football knowledge is limited because I too was LOS.
        (Left Off the Squad)

    • im guilty of this too. i blame twitter.

      • mgbode

        I don’t use twitter, so I cannot blame it (though I would like to).

  • RGB

    If we’ve learned anything about WRs, if the word “drops” appears anywhere, ANYWHERE, in their scouting report…MOVE ON…no matter how big, fast, agile, blah, blah, blah, they are. Just Say No.
    And most importantly…Trust Your Board.

    • RGB

      Oh, and that being said…I’d go with Jordan Matthews.

    • mgbode

      Yes, we agree in our WR analysis, which is why we both liked Sammy so much all last season.

  • i love the what would other guys have done angle.

    1. clark is all flustered since he was all-in on cameron fleming but GM-Kolonich wrecked everything and does a panicked pick of jack mewhort hoping to curry favor with bucks fans.
    2. suspect davis has scouted the sunshine state and goes with kelvin benjamin. one thing for sure though: stephen morris in the third round.
    3. savage saunters through green room looking for sliders, takes pity on morgan moses.
    4. mangini = borland. nuf ced.
    5. having felt the sting on missing out on kendall wright and with an extra third pick burning a hole in their pockets, holgrum-heckert trade-up for brandin cooks.
    6. banner-lombardi refuse to admit defeat on darren mcfadden and actually DO take dee ford simultaneously living the cant-have-too-many-pass-rushers and missing on the better player, kony ealy.

    kanick? i guess kanick goes with jordan matthews after a long long consideration of keith mcgill.

    • RGB

      Kelvin Benjamin = Greg Little + 20 pounds.

    • mgbode

      First off, many thanks for all of the editing and pictures and the KRM in general. Made it easy to only have to focus on the content here.

      (1) 🙂

      (2) Not sure Benjamin passes the “fast” test for Butch, but he definitely was infatuated with Florida athletes (regardless of where they ended up in college) and I completely agree with Morris in the 3rd.

      (3) Initially, I thought you were talking White Castle 🙂

      (4) Borland definitely fits the Mangini LBer mold.

      (5) Definitely can see it..

      (6) Not so sure about Ealy being better. I think it will largely depend on where they end up and how they are used.

      • btw, jared abbrederis is mangini’s fall back if borland is gone.

  • zarathustra

    Also loved this!
    “Though it was absolutely frustrating that they punted both FA & the draft when we desperately needed talent, but that is a separate issue.  I will thank him for making value-based trades both in the draft and with Richardson.  Hopefully, Farmer can utilize that value well.”

    To think about how how many fewer comments I would would have made here the past 12 months….

  • zarathustra

    Bravo! Everything here is great. I pray that farmer has your bullet points posted in the war room. Also, I think you nailed how most of the different front offices would handle the pick.

    • mgbode

      Thank you very much. It is appreciated.